After months of work, we are happy to announce the opening of This Will Not Defeat Me to help those dealing with recovery from traumatic experiences in their life’s. The first video experience we have released is This Will Not Defeat Me After Sexual Abuse and it walks you through the experience of Chris Davios. He talks about what he went through as a child, what his life was like afterwards, and how he overcame the trauma that was done.
Don’t miss this exciting announcement as we endeavor to figure this thing out together, overcome our past, and say This Will Not Defeat Me!
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Episode #232 Transcription
Chris Gazdik: [00:00:00] Hello. This is Through a Therapist’s Eyes. You are finding us not on YouTube live. We are actually in my friend Chris Davios, I guess, house kitchen. What is this? This is the family room. This is the family room, unquote. The Palace room. The Palace room, yes. Okay. This is actually where we recorded a part of what we’re gonna be talking about tonight.
This will not defeat me after sexual abuse. Wow. I’ve been waiting a long time to do a, to do a show with this topic. So welcome. We’re gonna introduce Chris here in a little bit through a therapist size where you usually get information about mental health and substance abuse through a panel, personal time in your car, and at home, not to delivery of therapy services in any way.
I am not in my office. I am not in my normal stream, so I usually don’t know what date or time it is, but this is Saturday. Actually, [00:01:00] we usually record on a Thursday, so we’ll return to that normal stuff. Episode 2 32. You believe that Christopher? Yep. Is your real name
Chris Davios: Christopher or Chris? It’s, it’s Christopher, but I, you know, people are not allowed to call me that if they just call me Chris,
Chris Gazdik: I’d to show like my brother who nobody’s allowed to call my brother Ronnie.
He’s Ron. Yeah, but I can call him Ronnie. Yeah. So are there people that can call you Christopher? Like one, like one? Yeah. Mama. Nope. No, not mama. Well, maybe we’ll find out who that is later on. So Apple iTune reviews are helpful. Spotify, LinkedIn, you can find us all over the place. Contact through a therapist size.com.
Chris, you know, I like to say on the podcast that this is the human emotional experience, which we endeavor to figure out together. We’ve figured some stuff out, I guess, over the last several months with this whole thing, haven’t we? Oh, yeah. I figured out a lot. Right? Pretty, pretty amazing to have to have worked with you to create what we are kind of now launching finally, after so many weeks or months [00:02:00] later.
Yes. Can, can you believe it’s gotten here? Yeah. Finally. Ooh. Right. It took a while. Right. So this will not defeat me after sexual abuse is a video experience. Mm-hmm. That I guess through through a therapist size in combination with what is your your group Power
Chris Davios: of God ministries and
Chris Gazdik: media.
The Power of God ministries and media. We have joined forces to create the, this will not defeat me after sexual abuse. So we’re gonna be talking about that today, a little bit about sexual abuse in general, but really kind of telling you what about the program you get out of it, what it is, you know, all of that kind of a thing.
But before we get into that, let’s just get to know you. Who are you, where do you come from and who are you? I didn’t prepare usually because you’re more a buddy of mine now, so I, I didn’t, I didn’t prepare, like, you know, this is an amazing author. He is done all these amazing things. I, I know you, but on a, on a personal level.
So gimme the professional plug. Okay. What is Mr. Chris [00:03:00] Davios? Oh, who
Chris Davios: is he? Well, he was born in a small town called Hopkins, South Carolina, just east of Columbia. Grew up in a home where there was a lot of domestic violence in, in a family where there was sexual abuse. Decided to not allow my circumstances to define who I was and so I became a police officer.
One to battle against, you know, criminals and, you know, people domestic abusers. Had, didn’t have a great chance with me 25
Chris Gazdik: years. 25 years police officer for two and a half decades. Yes, sir. Thank you for your service in doing all of that, man, by the way. You’re welcome. Thank you. Throw that in there.
Chris Davios: And then I decided because I was told that I was gonna be a failure, I decided to start a computer business.
Who was wrong about that? He was very wrong about that. Who? Who was wrong about that? It was my father, believe it or not. Yeah, yeah. That’s, yeah. So I run a computer business. I am a published author of four books and working on [00:04:00] a children’s series. That kind of tells kids that you can be whatever God called you to be.
Awesome. As well as we do some little comedy videos dealing with social issues with my partner homeboy, Justin, the, the light man. And
Chris Gazdik: is that his name? Nah, his real name is Baker. He spell the middle name, or is that. Nah, usually you do the corny jokes that we’re hanging out or doing stuff or whatever.
I’m sorry, did I just take, did I just take over a corny joke, man? You, you got it. Did I get, did I do good or enough? You did pretty good. I did, I did pretty good. Pretty good.
Chris Davios: Yep. But he’s a baker, but he can’t cook, so we just call him Justin. Oh, Justin,
Chris Gazdik: a light man. Oh, so it’s really Justin Baker. Yeah. And just a note and a word of thank you to Justin.
He, he really helped us out by doing recordings and yes, what you’ll see with the video experience, if this will not defeat me, is it’s, it’s not a training or a class. It’s, I, I, I call it a video experience. And yes, Justin, who’s actually hanging out with us in the room here was was. [00:05:00] Awesome. I, you know, I, I hadn’t really done a lot of camera work or whatever like that outside of the show.
Some different small stuff. So, you know, micing me up and dealing with my weirdness with all of that was, thank you for, just, for coaching me with all of that was very helpful. And you did an awesome job, Justin? The baker? Yeah, the baker. Okay. All right. But we interrupted
Chris Davios: you. Yeah. And then also Justin and I did a movie called Are You Serious?
Which is dealing with the topic of sexual abuse. Mm-hmm. So and you know, kind of even how we met, It was just a weird situation.
Chris Gazdik: It was, we’re gonna come to that for sure, because that, it was a weird situation. Yeah. I mean all this stuff is kind of by design, so, so yeah. You do a lot. I, you know.
Interesting. What, what is, what would you say is your primary day job? What’s your big gig? Computers. Can you even
Chris Davios: nail it down? Computer networking and engineering is my
Chris Gazdik: day job. I wonder, I really wondered how you would say that, right? Yeah. How do they find you? Give yourself a sh a plug. Do it. Don’t be shameful about it.
Come on. I know you don’t want to, but [00:06:00] how can people find Chris Davios to help with all of their networking and computer stuff? Cuz I know that you’re super good about it and good at it and you Yeah, it’s amazing.
Chris Davios: Yeah. New miracles.com that’s new, like a new car hyphen, and then miracles like in the bible.com.
You can reach out to us. My email is, you can just send it to admin staff@newmiracles.com and someone will get in contact with you. And what
do
Chris Gazdik: you do? Set up networks, team networks, programming. Like what, what do you
Chris Davios: really do? We do any type of it stuff. Internet, internet routing and all of that.
Router switches, networks. That’s, that’s it.
Chris Gazdik: Okay. Yeah. Big companies, small companies, mom and pop shops, everything
Chris Davios: from the corporations, like what do we got? Yeah. Everything from the small and medium to actually consulting for large corporations. Okay, cool.
Chris Gazdik: So, yep. B of a call him, he’ll help you out. Oh, yeah.
And the mom and pop shop with two employees. Yeah. No, and, and you will love working with Chris because if anything you know, working with him through all that we’ve [00:07:00] done with all of this program and stuff, I, I can test that. He is awesome. So, yeah. Why did we create, this will not defeat me after sexual abuse.
And you are obviously passionate about this. You’ve, you’ve, you’ve gotten into writing, you haven’t written, oh, you got another book to come about your story, don’t you? Yeah. You need to write that one brother. Yeah. Knowing your story. Yeah, that’s gotta happen.
Chris Davios: Yeah. That’s probably in within the next year or two, that book will be
Chris Gazdik: done.
Okay, so it’s in, it’s in, it’s
Chris Davios: in the works. Yeah. It’s, it’s, ah, it’s in my, it’s in my head right now, but it’ll eventually be on paper.
Chris Gazdik: Dude, we needed to have that go with the little video experience deal, man. We should have thought of that ahead of time. But check him out, man. He’s doing a lot, a lot of things.
And obviously it relates to sexual abuse as being the number one passion Yes. For a reason. This has been a part of your life, [00:08:00] right? I say that. Yeah. Purposely that way. Oh, yeah. Only a part.
Chris Davios: Yeah. It was as a child, it was a defining part. Mm-hmm. And unfortunately you don’t, you don’t remember a lot of that stuff.
You just have these behaviors that you don’t understand
Chris Gazdik: sexual abuse. Yeah. Sucks. It really does. Can we say that like, yeah. It
Chris Davios: sucks. It su and it’s actually more common than most people realize. There’s a bunch of people we see, sometimes we call ’em crack heads, prostitutes people who have challenges in society.
When you really get down to it, if you, a lot of times if you take the time and talk to ’em, you’ll find out that they’ve been, been actually abused sexually and just don’t know how to deal with their issue.
Chris Gazdik: Yeah. You know what? We, we do these little YouTube reels. You should check ’em out. All you through a therapist size, people around the world, and I’m gonna, Neil, I’m gonna give you a heads up.
Here’s a reel. Right? I have never done that before. Have I? I am calling it out [00:09:00] right now. I want this to be a reel. And for those of you who don’t know what a real is, it is just a, a thing that he catches, something that I say in the show and, and pops a little segment on. So join in here at the end if you want, because I just wanna rail for a second, not rail, but I wanna highlight like, I support the Me Too movement.
Like thankfully we have had that happen and it has helped millions of women around the world and I have thought in my mind since then for a while of somehow launching, maybe this is it right now, right? The he too movement. Because men, as you just said a little bit ago on our podcast show, Chris, do not talk about this stuff, do not address this stuff are silent and alone and they realm in the millions.
Yep. Finish off our reel here. Do you agree? I
Chris Davios: totally agree because with [00:10:00] men we, we have our little standard and our pride that we don’t want anybody to know what happened to us. So we end up destroying a bunch of other stuff around us because we don’t want to deal with what’s going on in us, right. And what happened to us.
Right. So, yeah, it’s the, it, the he too movement would be good. So guys who are struggling with issues can face their issue head on and not deal with the stigma of something that they had no control over.
Chris Gazdik: I mean, I’m telling you, you know, like you said, it affects many people. And I, there are not, I don’t know, in my mind, in my therapy mind, they’re not like, too, too many things left that are really just like, we do not talk about this one.
Yeah. As I demonstrate it with my pen for, you know, like, dude, sexual abuse amongst men. Yeah. Porn addictions and sexual addictions as well is another one of ’em interested. And isn’t, [00:11:00] isn’t it interesting mm-hmm. That there’s a combination of the sexuality piece here, but this is one area where dudes just, this is, this is a left.
It, it is one of the last passions in mental health that people do not understand that we could talk about yet. Yeah,
Chris Davios: that’s what I’m trying to say. Oh yeah. Cuz I mean, like I said, it’s the stigma of it. You know, who, who, what guy wants to say somebody, you know, that, you know, touched me the wrong way or tried to do something to me.
And that’s, that’s, that’s already rough for guys to even talk about. Right. You know, we don’t even wanna talk about if our team lose, we don’t wanna talk about that soles yet. Somebody who robbed you of your childhood, that was a, in most cases, family member, A lot of
Chris Gazdik: times it’s, yeah. People, you know. Right.
Chris Davios: Yeah. The
Chris Gazdik: closest people to you, isn’t it? Like, I’m making up numbers, but it’s like 70%, 75, 80%. That’s close to Right. At the time the sexual crime is a family member affected. Is, is I? Yeah. And it is a family member. Mm-hmm. Or a [00:12:00] friend, somebody we know.
Chris Davios: Oh yeah. Yeah. And the sad part is because of the lost trust at the childhood stage, the person grows up not trusting anyone.
That’s a thing, which then creates additional problems in their
Chris Gazdik: life. So we’re talking about sexual abuse today, and that affects men and women. Yes. I, I just wanted to take a special time there though, to, to really, really highlight the he too, cuz men we’re talking to you out there as, as victims of sexual abuse.
And God almighty, how powerful it is that you are courageous enough to kind of step into the world and let them know that this is something that you have been offended with. And I said this to you on the beginning of the video experience. I don’t know if you remember it before we really even got going on it, man, for.
The first segment, I think I, I, I wanted to say how, how grateful I am that you’re doing that and sharing your experience. What a powerful reality that is, [00:13:00] man. It is, it is strong on you that you’re, that you’re doing this.
Chris Davios: Yeah. Well, I mean, it’s kind of the title, this Will Not defeat me, was kind of my attitude.
Because I didn’t, once I was, I was praying and saying, God, what’s wrong with me? Why am I like this? Why do I think so violent? Why do I want to hurt people? What is going on in my head? You know, and in fighting that what I call a demonn I just made my mind up. I wasn’t gonna let that, you know, prevent me from being a good person, and I wasn’t gonna let that cause me to hurt other people.
Chris Gazdik: Right. You know? And so what’s, what’s the basis? I mean I wanna say that part of what’s so powerful about the video experience, if this will not defeat me after sexual abuse, is that you spent, I think our segment on that was like 20 minutes. Yeah. I mean, 20 minutes of. Just gut wrenching reality of what your story is.
Mm-hmm. And, and sharing that with people so that they [00:14:00] will know that they are not alone. Yeah. And so I, I don’t want to give all of that now and really more for the reason of, I don’t want you to have to go through all this it right now. I mean, because that was tough. Why? It it was, it was. I mean, I, I remember being surprised, honestly, Chris, in the middle cuz I hadn’t heard some of those things.
And, and I, I know that now I know. I’m looking back like, you were really gearing up, you were gearing in, you were like, yeah, lightening it up in your mind. And, and about five, 10 minutes through, I’m like, oh, whoa. What? Yeah. What’s going on?
Chris Davios: Well, it it, it, the thing about it is every time you talk about it, it gets easier.
Is that true? Yeah. Great. And that’s actually highlight a release highlight. Yeah, it is a release because years ago attended a class at a church called, I think it was called Rams, for which Stand stood for rape, molestation, abuse and Substance or something like that. Okay. And yeah, that first time trying to [00:15:00] talk about that did not go well, wasn’t gonna happen.
That was like yeah
Chris Gazdik: talk. But you can’t
Chris Davios: really form words, can’t get any words out, ready to hurt anybody who comes near me. Just like but then the more. The more you write those things out. Cuz I had to start writing and talking about ’em. It, you know, you start with the one piece that you remember, but then it takes you back and then all the other things.
And the more you get it out, the more it frees you. You know, A lot of times we think of what others will think about us. I’m here to tell you I don’t care what people think about me. Me, I’m free. That’s fear. I’m free now. Hmm. You know? And there’s no more. Yeah. It happened. Not something I had any control over.
I was a kid, but I’m free. So whereas before, I mean anything got close to it. It was a fight. And so now like, because you would feel violent. Yeah, I was feel violated. Would feel threatened. I said violent. Yeah. Vi. Oh, violent. Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
Chris Gazdik: There was a [00:16:00] fight.
Chris Davios: Yeah, it was literally a fight. Yeah. But now it’s like, yeah.
Okay. It happened.
Chris Gazdik: So what, what is it, what’s, what’s the short of what happened to you, would you say? I know you shared it on the video experience mm-hmm. In depth and detail. Like what, how, how can you let people know? Like, what, what are we talking about? Well,
Chris Davios: it was, I would say went from rape to from molestation to attempted rape.
Somebody tried to do things that you shouldn’t, you shouldn’t do with kids. I’m gonna just leave it like that. Let ’em watch the rest of the, on the video. And you were pretty young. Yeah. Between six and eight years old. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, it’s, it has a mental effect. I mean, there’s a lot of people, I believe, who are struggling with homosexuality now.
Was because of somebody violating them as a child. Hmm. And they may not re realize, you know, what happened to them because the brain has this protection thing of it. You forget, you don’t [00:17:00] remember it, but the nerve ending still remembers certain parts of it. And so because I mean, after it happened to me, I started questioning my sexuality as, you know, was this supposed to happen?
Am I, you know, am I gay or is what’s going on with me? Is what I started thinking. Cuz I was a kid and I didn’t know any better. I didn’t know that, you know, you know, cousin ain’t supposed to be touching you or doing certain things or trying to do things to you. So it, it made me question,
Chris Gazdik: well, that’s a natural part of sexual abuse.
I mean, it, it, it, it. It’s also part of what creates guilt. Mm-hmm. And, and shame, you know, men and women neander, who is the offender with your scenario or your trauma. There’s tremendous confusion when you really start talking about, well, my body responded. Yeah. I, I. Liked it. I maybe I wanted, maybe I [00:18:00] wanted that.
Like that is a common, common experience as a matter of fact. With unfortunately many more women than men again. Mm-hmm. Cuz of the shame. And, and I’ve just never heard hear about men’s experiences quite as much. Don’t get me wrong. I do. But But there, there’s oftentimes people will kind of believe that this wasn’t even an offense, that this was an affair that I had.
Yeah. Or that this was, you know, a, a now we know the term date rape, but we, we know that there’s, there’s inappropriate. Sexual experiences that, that women have had when they said like, no. Mm-hmm. And, and, and sexuality still happens. So it, it, it creates a lot of doubts, fears, not just about homosexuality, but just that I was, I was wrong in this.
I’m, I, I carry some burden of responsibility. And I’ll make a bold statement here. If you’ve experienced inappropriate sexual behavior, there is zero, zero [00:19:00] responsibility that is on you. It is on the person. A hundred percent. Yep. Who offended you and created a traumatic response. Sorry. I feel strong about that.
No, no, you’re
Chris Davios: real. That’s real. And you, you touched on something that a lot of the perks will. They will tell the person who they’ve, what’d you say? Perks. Perks. Perks. Perpetrators. Perks.
Chris Gazdik: Perks. That is a police officer in you, isn’t it?
Chris Davios: The perks said but they will literally tell, oh, well you wanted this, this is what you asked for.
And they’ll try to play mind games with you. Right. To make you think that was something you ask. And really true. It makes me wanna
Chris Gazdik: feel violent, man. Yeah. I mean, it does, man, when people off. But
Chris Davios: anyway, all right. Yeah. I mean, and that, and that’s the thing is they want to get in your head. That’s why a lot of times it’s the ones that’s the closest to you, the people you should trust and they’ll tell you things.
Oh, well, but that’s what you said you wanting. No, that’s not, and for kids, especially kids don’t,
Chris Gazdik: they don’t even [00:20:00] have the ability man to make that decision, you know, to or to use the voice, to use the, the, the power to say no. Yeah. It’s kids all another level in my mind. Oh yeah.
Chris Davios: And then another thing is el.
Well, if you say something, I’ll kill you. So now the kid’s afraid, terrified because they’re thinking if I say something, you know, this person’s gonna kill my mom or my dad because a kid don’t know no better. You’re just a kid. And so then they’re, they’re almost forced in a corner to not talk about it.
And the perk just walks and keeps doing it keeps, you know, doing it to other kids. And that’s, that’s the part where we have to say something. We have to talk. I mean, any victory comes from a fight. So you gotta be willing to fight and fight one for yourself to be free and fight so this person doesn’t hurt other people.
Yeah.
Chris Gazdik: You know, in the video experience of this will not defeat me after sexual abuse. I remember like segment three read up in the beginning of it, I explained like, listen, I’m not a passive therapist. Yeah. I’m not somebody that just sits [00:21:00] back and kind of like, you know, this is, this is a battle. Yeah. This is an absolute battle and a fight.
I love what. Your attitude is with that. I mean, when you’re, when you’re working in, in a therapy experience with me or when you’re dealing throughout this video experience that hopefully you’ll be interested in if you’re, if you’ve dealt with this issue you know, you have different kind of tools and weapons.
Mm-hmm. You, you know, we’re not talking about guns and knives and fights and fists and this type of thing. We’re, we’re talking about, you know, deescalation skills. We’re talking about cognitive reframing, we’re talking about the tool of self-talk that is a sword. Mm-hmm. We’re talking about lifting shame and, you know, reframing your, your beliefs about yourself.
Like this wasn’t your accountability. I mean, those are, that’s the battle lag. Yep. And I want to go to war man on this mm-hmm. With
Chris Davios: those weapons. Oh yeah. Because we, before we were fighting with the fists, the guns, the knives. Right. And cuz that’s the only weapons we, we knew how to fight with. It’s not effective.
Right. And yeah. And so what happens now with therapy and [00:22:00] with learning how to fight different, Same battle, but you’re fighting with different weapons and more effective weapons. You remember how we met?
Chris Gazdik: Oh yeah. That was crazy, wasn’t it?
Chris Davios: It most certainly was.
Chris Gazdik: I, I just, I think that to me, I don’t know what you really feel about it, but to me, It really felt like things were just set up.
Right. So the, the short is I had a student that was just working with me in my practice, shadowing me, learning about mental health and all this kind of thing. And, and she just, she had a conversation with you, I guess? Yeah. About an emotional issue. Mm-hmm. You kind of remember it gather. Oh yeah, you remember
Chris Davios: this, remember it like it was yesterday.
And then somehow we met not long after that. Cause she And you didn’t know her? Didn’t know her. Never met him before. But it in my life. But it was God, you know, for those who don’t believe that God exists, I’m gonna tell you he does exist. Yeah. And he sets up things and [00:23:00] he arranged for me to be in that place where she was to have that conversation.
Cuz I personally, I was just going, I’m gonna go get my coffee and I’m gonna get up outta here. And it literally, I, it is like, go talk to her. That’s literally what I heard. That was what I heard. What she felt is like, okay, I don’t know this lady. And in my mind I’m like, I’m gonna put me in jail talking to this girl.
I don’t know who she is. And it was amazing that. As we started a short conversation, the very some things in my life as a police officer was what she was working on. Mm-hmm. And that’s how the conversation started. And then I guess she gave you my number. Well, well,
Chris Gazdik: she, she came, she was just talking that day, that morning, you know, I mean we’re in a therapy thing and I mean, she was still emotional a little bit.
Mm-hmm. And that was fine. And I, I was just supportive and encouraging. I was like, well, wait a minute, I back up. Who’d you talk to? Oh, this dude, this dude just does this, you know, whatever. I was like, oh, who is he? I don’t know why I gave his card. He, she, she showed me the card to give me, and I was like, video thing.
I’m like, wait a [00:24:00] minute. Hold on a minute. I kind of need a video guy. Cause I had some, I had some thoughts in my head on things I wanted to do and all. And so I called you, I was like, Hey, you don’t know me, man. But by the way, my name’s Chris and of course your name’s Chris. Chris, yes. So Chris, I told you what I had in mind and you’re like basically already having done it, right?
Mm-hmm. Having started doing a lot of things and so we, we, we thought, well let’s, let’s actually meet and chat and talk. And I think we have an alliance that’s gonna do a lot of good. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So what is in your mind, Mr. Davios? This will not defeat me after sexual abuse. The video experience,
Chris Davios: it’s walking through not only the pain, but the path to healing.
It gives you steps. One that I personally have gone through before I even knew the therapy side of it. And then to meet an actual therapist who was like, oh yeah, that means [00:25:00] this and this means that and that means this and not me, but another person, right? Yeah. Another therapist. And then, then you started telling me about cognitive reframing.
I don’t use big words like that, y’all. I just say, you know, change the way you
Chris Gazdik: think. I only, I only do it when I’m talking to my crowd. I, I dumb
Chris Davios: it Dan, but yeah. So by, by you telling, you know, our conversations, me not realizing I was on a path to healing using what God taught me, what other therapists taught me, and those were the, the weapons.
So even like the ti, the scripture, the weapons of warfare, not carnal, but mighty threw God through the pulling down a strong holes. So there were certain. Things in the mental health and the therapy area that helped pull down those strong holes. That was in my mind, that was, you know, kind of like a control thing in the background messing with my life.
And so, you know, after we met and then learning that from you, or relearning it, should I say, and then talking about it, because that was [00:26:00] kind of the big key. There’s a shame attached to sexual abuse. And most of the time people don’t talk about it. But by not talking about it, you keep yourself in bondage, right?
You know when you don’t talk about it, you hold it in. And what happens is it just comes out in an explosion versus talking about it as kind of a slow release of that pressure. And it frees you. It frees the way you think. It frees and and allows you to know that it really wasn’t your
Chris Gazdik: fault. And it’s amazing to me, Chris, and there might be many of you listening to, through a therapist size episode 2 32, realizing that you’ve experienced this and this is not something to date in your life, whether you’re 53, 73 years old, 23 or 13, hopefully more of the younger variety because it is such an amazing.
Experience when in my therapy office, Chris, people share this for the first time in their life and they’ve told no [00:27:00] one. Yeah, right. No one. Mm-hmm. And I’m like, wow. Like, who am I to, to receive, you know, this information? And, and what do we do with that? How do we heal starting at that time? It’s a powerful reality that I’ve relived multiple times and I’m, I mean, I’m, I’m super glad every time that it happens and, and hopefully it happens a few more times because I know the healing Yeah.
And the recovery that comes from
Chris Davios: that. Yeah. And I want to say thank you for your service in helping those who suffered. Because if it wasn’t for therapists like you and people who care to listen, like because, When, when you feel like you can’t talk about it, you don’t talk about it. Right. When you’re in an emotionally safe place, you can release.
It’s possible. Yeah. And, and, and so, you know, therapists [00:28:00] like yourself and, and others like you who are there to help professionally help us get free because that’s ultimately what the goal is. To be free. Free from the, from the pain of the past, free from the judgment of, of, of others, for something that you had nothing to do with free.
Just be free and not allow that past to control you, to define you or to defeat you. You know, the Bible refers to how the enemy comes to steal, kill and destroy. Talking about Satan, we a lot of times think of it in one way. But when you mess with a child at a young age and you start to derail their life, that purpose is to steal, kill, or destroy.
That that killing could be from them, substance abuse because they don’t know how to deal with the pain, you know, destroying their life where they feel that they’re not worth anything. So they make decisions not based on the value God assigned to ’em, but based on how they feel because of an emotional experience or a [00:29:00] sexual experience as a child that they had no control over.
It can destroy the way they think, the way they view themselves. There are a lot of young ladies out there, and even men who have become prostitutes and they sell their body because they don’t feel they’re worth anything. And by them getting free by, by opening up and talking about what happened and getting free from it, getting the tools to reframe their reality, to change their, their thought pattern, it changes ’em and makes ’em into a better person.
So again, I wanna say thank you for
Chris Gazdik: yourselves. It, it’s, it’s powerful. Thank you. I mean, it’s, it’s humbling. Chris, I, you know, I think that we as therapists, you know, which is part of the theme of the show, right? Like through therapists eyes, as much as I realize, and I’m listening to you, they’re. I, I, as much as I think I get it, I, I’m sure I don’t, we forget, like, you know, it, it’s, [00:30:00] it’s a humbling reality, like I said, to, to really receive those reports and those stories and begin to see people kind of come out.
I, I always think of a Vietnam veteran when I was a young clinician. I was very young and new, and he shared for the very first time, you know, things that he experienced in the bush in Vietnam. And I was like, whoa. And I, and I remember being like, just stunned. And I asked him, I said, well, who. Who knows about like, what happened to you there.
And he just, he just looked at me solemnly and really just straight eye to eye. And he said, Chris, nobody. Mm-hmm. And I’m just like, whew. Like, wow, okay. And, and so I forget, we, I, I think we don’t realize, and we forget how, how big of a reality that is, because when you’re alone with that type of thing, it just, it just sucks.
Mm-hmm. It’s just terrible. It’s terrifying. And. [00:31:00] It almost creates a sense that there’s just no hope. Yeah. So I’d like to say with this will not defeat me after sexual abuse, you know, what do we get outta here? What are, what are people doing? So let’s talk about the video experience, man. What’s, why did you do this?
I think I know the answer. You’ve already talked about the answer, but really, like, why put it on a video experience? What do you hope from this? What do you see happening with this? What’s your, what’s your vision? Because I think we share it. Yeah.
Chris Davios: That others who have or have gone through it or are going through it, they will see it and realize it’s kind of a me too or he too situation and this person got free so I can too that I’m not alone in this because so many times the victims feel like they’re the only person this is happening to.
And a lot of guys, particular guys don’t really talk about it. And so I want, you know, because I want the men who’ve gone through this to know, because it could destroy your family and everything else, but if [00:32:00] you get free, it saves your family, it saves your marriage, it saves your children, and that’s how you save a nation.
Hmm. Wow. So, I mean, this is bigger than, bigger than me and my, me and my two my kids, or my, you know, it’s to help this country to help the world because it, this doesn’t just happen in America. This is happening all
Chris Gazdik: over the world. Well, I’m glad that you just extended that beyond our simple boundaries of these United States.
Yeah. I mean, this is absolutely, I mean, you’re on a worldwide podcast right now. Mm-hmm. And we’re speaking to the world, right. And this is something around the world. Mm-hmm. In, in, in different cultures, different creeds, different breeds, different reeds. It just rhymes Chris to bear with me. The reeds, right.
Different climates, different lands. It’s the same. Yeah. It’s, it’s the same. It, it is a human emotional experience that is [00:33:00] torturous to the soul. Right. Sexual abuse. And, and I don’t know that other cultures are better talking about it than ours for sure. No. And, and so we are, we are taking a stab at, you know, some weapons to, to arm people.
You know what, this will not defeat me after sexual abuse really is about, to some extent, to me, it’s about an answer to the question. Mm-hmm. And the question oftentimes people have is, what do I do? Yeah. How, how do I deal with this? Mm-hmm. Well, what am I, what actions can I take? Like I am, I have been stuck for 30 years with this, this happened to me.
So I, I do not know anything of what I’m supposed to do. It. It’s just I am stumped. Yep. And though I don’t think we have an imminent immediate solution. Because that what was done to you and how you were harmed and traumatized [00:34:00] can never go away. Right. And I don’t wanna make any, you know, click bait or we’ve got the answer kind of claims or I’m not.
I’m, I’m pretty genuine and truthful and straight up. So we can’t ever make this go away. Yeah. It will be with you forever, but the power that it has over your life, right. We know what to do.
Chris Davios: Mm-hmm. It’s, it’s like that we know some steps, right? Yep. It’s like having a set of handcuffs. In one instance, the handcuffs are on you and they’re holding you and they’re restricting you versus you have the key, you unlock ’em, you still have that hand set of handcuffs, but now you can use it as a fighting tool, as like a set of brass knuckles.
So it’s the same too. It’s the same thing, but it’s been used
Chris Gazdik: differently. I’m sorry. You are such a police officer. We with that metaphor. I love it though. That’s awesome. That’s awesome. And I
Chris Davios: never hit anybody, but it said [00:35:00] handcuffs on my, let’s get
Chris Gazdik: that straight. Okay, good. Good, good, good. What are some of the answers?
I, I’m, I’m curious, in, in, in our talkings, I mean you, you’ve obviously you did, you did a lot of the video editing and you know, our segments. You were there. Mm-hmm. We recorded. Mm-hmm. You know, we have some answers about what to do, how to move, what’s the first steps, what are some steps, what are some tools, how do we move to get to where you have gotten after experiencing sexual abuse?
Like, what do you remember, I guess, either in your journey of getting well, or specifically in. Our video experience? What’s, what, what, you know, what’s the first thing that comes to mind when somebody says, all right, I’m a victim as well, bro. I don’t know what to do. Write it out. What do I do?
Chris Davios: Start writing.
Start writing everything you remember. It doesn’t have to be a perfect story, but as you start to write it, you start to get it out. That’s, that’s to me was one of the biggest things because until I could relieve some of the pressure of it, [00:36:00] and and getting it out, putting it on paper, yeah, you relive it, but you’re getting it out.
That’s the, that was the first and the biggest thing for me. Mm-hmm. And secondly, knowing that it wasn’t your
Chris Gazdik: fault, well, hold on, let me, let me go a little, let me go a little further with that. Mm-hmm. So, with the first one, you know what’s funny is, is you say you get it out, right? And we talked about this on one of the video experiences.
Mm-hmm. As a matter of fact, I think that was one of the ones we were sitting right here, possibly. So yeah, I, I think it was, I think I was sitting in the same spot actually. And, and the interesting thing about that is when you write it down, it has movement. It goes yes. It’s in you, nobody knows besides you and the offender.
Mm-hmm. And when you read it down on paper, that physical action. Is neurologically, psychologically, physically powerful and [00:37:00] different. Mm-hmm. It is a different action and nobody still knows besides you and the offender. Right. But it gets out. It
Chris Davios: gets
Chris Gazdik: out. Yep. Isn’t that amazing? You don’t have to tell anybody.
Mm-hmm. But you can get it out and in getting it out, that moves out of you. It’s there, there’s a piece and of the power that it’s held over you, that, that actually exits. Right. I mean, I don’t wanna get too existential crazy with the psychology behind it and what we know and what we study and how all, how all that works and, and who knows if we know.
I could tell you it just moves the energy out of you onto a piece of paper. Even, I don’t care if you burn it. I don’t care if you crumple it. I don’t care if you, you know, send it up into a balloon or put it in a bottle or wherever you do, there’s movement. Well,
Chris Davios: don’t send it in a balloon above the us It might get shot down by million dollar missile.
Yeah. We’ve
Chris Gazdik: had. We’ve had issues with that in the states. I’m sure you’ve heard around the world, I don’t know, balloons floating over the states. What do we come to? But then, but then you said number
Chris Davios: two and number two. It was writing it, [00:38:00] talking about it, and knowing that it wasn’t your fault. Number two, I would say, came back definitely was knowing it wasn’t your fault because the, the perks or the, the offenders always try to make you think this was you.
Even with, with, with rapists, they tell the victim, this is what you want, that you know you want this, you know, or it’s your fault. So the person has a shame that they carry and they don’t want to because they’re thinking that, well, this is what I asked for, and that’s not the case. You know, this was a nasty individual who violated you or did something to you, and then they played mind games with you versus when you know it’s not your fault, when you know that’s not what you wanted.
You didn’t have a choice. You didn’t know how to fight back. Right? So now knowing that it wasn’t your fault is one of the ways you can fight, or I’m gonna say the, the devil or the enemy who’s playing with your mind telling you, oh, this is, this is what you wanted. No, it wasn’t. And [00:39:00] it’s not my fault.
Chris Gazdik: You know what’s funny?
It’s a totally different show. But as you, as you say, it just stuck in my head, so I’m gonna say it out loud. You know, this is a nasty individual that hurt you. Mm-hmm. Part of really healing later on in the healing process, when you’re really emotionally free and you can be objective and, and you reach states of forgiveness, which is to defined by letting go of your anger against another.
I, I, you know, Casey, a colleague of mine loves to say, hurt people. Hurt people. That’s true. Very true. And so, I, I don’t want to change anything you said or, or confront it. I’m just saying an an additional perspective is that, you know, There are many people that have sexually offended other people that we’re talking about as a victim.
We’re talking to them. Mm-hmm. Too. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Isn’t that crazy? Yeah. Like you may want to engage through a therapist eyes or this will not defeat me. Misspoke. Mm-hmm. You know, this will not [00:40:00] defeat me having offended somebody else sexually and being a victim. Your yourself
Chris Davios: to, to that point. And I think I, this was discussed in the, this will not defeat me.
The person who sexually abused me, I found out was sexually abused themselves as a child. You
Chris Gazdik: know, I don’t think that we did talk about that in the video. Okay. Well,
Chris Davios: I, yeah. I that well now, y’all know. Right. But I, what helped me to forgive because the Lord told me I had to forgive him. Yeah. And that’s one of the, that was another crazy freed, freed me was forgiving offender.
But when I found out the offender, Was sexually abused as a child. And you know, I, it, it didn’t make it okay with what they did, but it also helped me understand that that person was hurt themselves.
Chris Gazdik: You know, particularly people that are becoming sexual [00:41:00] with prepubescent kids, women, girls, or boys. Like what, what creates the idea that that is even something you would think about doing?
Chris Davios: It’s, I, I, you know, I, I could say nasty Chan, chances are you’ve experienced it. They’ve experienced it.
Chris Gazdik: That’s where the idea comes, because that’s what, that’s what
Chris Davios: happened to you. And as a police officer, I responded to a call one day where it was a, I want to say five or six year old girl kissed another girl in the mouth at the daycare.
And in route, I was having a conversation with my partner and I said, Somebody has done this to this child you already knew. And we start talking to this girl who’s a young, young, young African American female. And I ask her, where did you get, you know, why did you do that? And she began to say that her babysitter, Hmm.
Was doing
Chris Gazdik: that to her. [00:42:00] J just, just pause for a second. I, I have no idea. It is amazing to me, Mr. Chris Davios, how you were a police officer for 25 years investigating, interacting, coping with other people, and the trauma such as this girl that you were on a standard call for, and having been a victim of this yourself, like, I dunno how you contain yourself.
Well,
Chris Davios: here’s the thing. I really don’t, being a victim helps you identify other victims. Oh, a hundred percent. You know, like I I, I always used say X-men, professor X was a mutant. Yeah. So he can tell other mutants. Yeah. The normal person would look and be like, nah, they’re just, they’re just a little off, but Professor X, he’s like, nah, that’s a mutant.
Their, their abilities comes from what happened to them. And I remember doing this course called making Peace with Your Past, and it, it, it taught me something due to my abuse. I was able to see other victims.
Chris Gazdik: I could see like this girl seem to [00:43:00] beha like this girl who was simply kissing another girl,
Chris Davios: kissing another girl.
Yeah. Domestic abuse. I could see the behavior and Okay, I know where this comes from. Yeah. And you talk to the people and, oh, I’m, I want say 99.9% of the time it was one, it was accurate. Yeah. Soon as you talk does this and you see when the light goes on. One of the one specifically and this is talked about in the movie, are you serious?
Was I rolled up on a police call? There’s this young lady with two 11 inch butcher blades in her hand. Like this is a real call. Like this is a real police call in the Richland County area of South Carolina. We rolled up, there’s girl’s out there with these two butcher blades. Holy cow. And I get out of the car, drew my weapon, drop the knives, and she said, yes, sir.
Which was kinda weird.
Chris Gazdik: Oh, I remember you talking
Chris Davios: about this. Yeah. Yeah. And so I told my partner, since, you know, we had secured her, you take her, I’ll talk to this guy. And the guy was telling me how bad this little girl was and all of this. Mm-hmm. And I go back to [00:44:00] my partner and he is like, yeah, we know her.
She’s, this girl’s been all kind of trouble. The school resource officers, you know, everybody knows the girls are the troublemaker. She’s angry. And so when I talk to her, she’s, yes sir. No sir. Y well, that don’t line up with a bad kid. Yeah. So I go to my partner and I said, I think this girl’s been sexually abused.
Mm-hmm. And honestly, I’m thinking it was the stepfather. Right. So, lo and behold, coming to find out, the stepfather was sexually abusing her. She had the knives, not because she wanted to hurt him, but because she wanted to protect herself. She was protecting
Chris Gazdik: herself.
Chris Davios: Sure. And my partner later asked me, how did you p how did you find, because she’s had so many interactions with police, But nobody saw that but me and I broke down that day in the patrol car and said, because I was her, oh.
Many years ago when I was dealing with knives and guns. Mm-hmm. It wasn’t because I wanted to hurt somebody. I was afraid and didn’t want to be hurt myself. Is that the first time you revealed it [00:45:00] to him? Yeah, my partner. It was the first time he had heard it.
Chris Gazdik: And I think I remember you talking. That was, that was when you began to reveal though.
That was that, yeah. When was the first time you revealed it?
Chris Davios: The first memory I had of being sexually abused? No, no,
Chris Gazdik: no. When’s the first time you revealed it to any other person? Oh God. That’s
Chris Davios: what I’m saying. When I was in the Rams
Chris Gazdik: class. Okay. Yeah. Well, wait a minute. Really?
Chris Davios: Yeah, that was, but I was a cop by that time.
I had, I had been going through and I was having little memories of it, but just not like flat. Who did you tell? I think it was a girl I was dating at that time. Okay.
Chris Gazdik: Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. Okay. Okay. No, for some reason I thought you’re, you’re, you’re. Your police partner was the first person you
Chris Davios: told? No, I told him, because by that time, I’d already gone through Rams and I was able to more identify stuff, but it still, it was the first time I said anything to him and he was kind of shocked.
Like, you really? Yeah. Because he didn’t know. Yeah. You know, and he just knew I was a really good cop and [00:46:00] I could pick up on stuff that other officers didn’t. But when I revealed to him, I knew that because that was me.
Chris Gazdik: That’s strong. That is, that is powerful. I, I, I gotta go back, circle back though, by the way.
I, I can’t I can’t let it go. Did we did we identify the babysitter as a perpetrator? Yes. Yes. Yes. Hell yes. Because the victims need to, the victimization needs to stop. I mean, something that we know of about this is, is that when you, when you find one, you’ve got multiple. Mm-hmm. You, you really do.
It’s, it’s like a. It’s like an emotional cancer. Yeah. I don’t know when the original sin was. Maybe it was Kane and Abel, you know, back in the days where you met maybe a world population of, of a thousand, maybe that was the first time we had sexual abuse. But follow me for a minute, because if that was only one person in the entire world, population of, of a [00:47:00] thousand that that receives some sort of weird sexual event, they will do it to not one other, but anybody.
They can multiple few at least. And as the world population grows from a thousand to 10,000 and the one victim grew from three to to 11, you know, by the time the world population keeps on growing, guess what other population keeps on growing it. It’s spiderwebs out that way. Yep. You know, in sexual abuse families, You know, as a trained therapist, I know if I find one victim, I’m just looking around.
Mm-hmm. Like, which, you know, anyone else wanna put their hand up Right. With, because I know there’s other people Yeah. That have been offended and that are still silent. Mm-hmm. So that’s, that’s just, that’s a reality, unfortunately. Well,
Chris Davios: you said something just now that kinda, not gonna say struck a nerve, but it definitely [00:48:00] hit, hit, hit home.
When I finally, as an adult, shared this with my mother, she said that they knew, Hmm. He had the same guy had al raped, all three of his sisters gotten one of his sisters pregnant. Hmm. And my thought was, why would you leave me with that fool? Right? Because we didn’t think he would try that with you because you were a guy, right?
Oh God. But the fact is nasty is just nasty. Well,
Chris Gazdik: it has no limits. Sexually acting out is, is sexually acting out. And it, it, it does cross gender lines for sure. I mean, it, you know, oftentimes in normal sexual development you’ll have, you know, same gender. Right. Experiences. That’s, you know, truth and dare, you know, back to the schoolyard, right?
Mm-hmm. Truth and dare and, you know, spin the bottle and just different weird things, right? And, and so all of that kind of mixes up. Listen, I’m aware of the time. What, what do people get out of th [00:49:00] this will not defeat me after sexual abuse. I, I think in the initial parts of it, we really kind of do, you know your story so that people know that they’re not alone, they’re write down some homeworks along the way.
Mm-hmm. And, and really begin to kind of heal and grow from, you know, what they’ve been silent about or told only a few, and maybe they’re early in the recovering healing process. What, what do you, how would you describe what people get out of this? Like, why do they need to check it out? My
Chris Davios: one word summary would be freedom.
Okay. Emotional freedom. My, my description or long one is to get steps to get to that freedom. Gotcha. Okay. The ultimate goal of emotional freedom, but there’s steps and every section within it walks you through another step. It takes you from point A to point B to point C till you get all the way to the end.
And you know, you may have where you need to get a little bit professional help you may have, where this’ll get you to a point where you can kind of do a little bit more on your [00:50:00] own. But either way it’s gonna be steps that it gives you to get to ultimately emotional freedom.
Chris Gazdik: Got you. Yeah. I just signaled to you, Neil, you need your mic here in a little bit.
You, you might not have known that, but you’re gonna, you’re gonna need one if you need to plug it in or whatever. Yeah. That, that’s what I’m, that’s what I’m thinking. Like, I want people to understand, you know, like you know, what are the steps? What is this? Like, what is this video experience like? You know?
And, and like, I remember there were like several segments that we did little individual videos that is literally from my therapy office. Mm-hmm. Yep. You know, and, and we did some of the segments right here in, in, in your family room. This is the palace rooms. What’d you say? The palace. This is the palace, you know, and, and, and we did some, some video sh experiences in the woods.
Yep. You know, and so it’s, it’s really a dynamic kind of experience. I think that’s why I wanted to call it a video experience, not a class. Yeah. It’s just, that’s not, it’s better than a class. It’s more than a class. Yeah. And really we’re [00:51:00] walking with you, you know, I mean, do you get emails that, that are encouraging you, you know, through, through some of these steps?
Mm-hmm. You know, I know you didn’t like some of the video shading and everything, but we, we, yeah. You know which one I’m talking about? We went to the you know, to the coffee shop at the end. Oh yeah. I, I thought that was sad. Neat. Because we were talking about, you know, what, what you do in an ongoing basis.
So, so there’s a lot of steps and segments and, you know, this is, this is also at your own pace. You know, it’s in your own home, it’s at your own space. It’s you know, it’s
Chris Davios: safe. Mm-hmm. And that’s the, the key thing is the safety and the fact that, like you said, you don’t forget it. You just know how to manage it and not let it control you.
That to me was the biggest thing is yeah, it happened. I can’t go back and change the past. But I can choose to not allow that past, to defeat me, stop me, or prevent me from being, living my full potential. And you know what
Chris Gazdik: was kind of amazing to me a little bit. I, I didn’t ever say this to you off the mics, but it occurs to me and now I get to say it [00:52:00] to, well, I’m talking to you in front of the world.
Right? It, it was kind of neat, for a lack of a better word. I remember you made a comment, I’m sure you probably don’t even remember the comment, but we were, we were talking about video editing and doing some stuff that you were doing and getting the, the, the program together. And, and, and you made a comment that was like, wow, cool.
Very cool. Because you’re like, yeah, man. I was doing the editing and I was running through these things and I was learning so much as I was watching these things. Mm-hmm. You, you remember saying that? Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, it was funny to me because I’m like, wait a minute, bro. Like you were in it. You are teaching people what you have done and you’re watching it yourself.
Mm-hmm. And learning more every time. Look, I think you’re going to purchase, this will not defeat me after sexual abuse, and you’re gonna watch this over and over, over and over and over again and continue getting more because I mean, what I say on through a therapist side. Mm-hmm. This is the human emotional experience.
And we together, through a video experience, figure [00:53:00] this thing out together. And we even did that, the participants creating the
Chris Davios: video. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, it’s like reading the Bible. You can read the same scripture over and over and get something new every time. Watching that video, I was like, dad, I never thought.
And it’s like of it
Chris Gazdik: that way that I, what did I just say? Yeah.
Chris Davios: Like, and I said, wow, you know, and it is like, it opened your eyes to the thing cuz you can see it and it becomes common. Right. And then you see it again. It’s like, wow, I didn’t catch it the first time. Right. So
Chris Gazdik: yeah. It, it’s very true. And it’ll hit you at different stages of your recovery.
Mm-hmm. You know, you’ll, you’ll, you’ll hear something like you know, self-talk is one of our segments and we talk about how to use self-talk as a tool, as a strategy. One of the several strategies that are in this experience, and I’m sure you will go through it and you’ll go through it four months later.
Yep. And you might hear the same talk on self-talk. And guess what? You can receive that information different. And so [00:54:00] the same video segment on self-talk hits you in a different way, adding. It’s like upgrading your weapon.
Chris Davios: Yep. Upgrading your weapon. That’s exactly what
Chris Gazdik: it is. Right. So one of the things that I highlighted to answer my own question, what is something that, that I think is one of the bigger things in there?
You, you just alluded to it a little bit ago, a second ago, Chris is deescalation.
Chris Davios: Oh yeah. That was, yeah. Knowing not to, not to go off and blow up and hurt people.
Chris Gazdik: Yeah. And, and I remember talking to you guys like, what, you know, there is a free section of this thing that we, we just wanna put out to the world, and I made sure that I wanted that to be a part of that.
Mm-hmm. You know, it’s a, it is a cost for the whole program. It’s like well Neil, you talk about that here in it here in a second. How do they get it? How does it work? That type of thing. So carry your brain for that if you would. But, but, you know, I, I wanted that to be really free. Mm-hmm. A hundred percent.
Like first. Yeah. First and free and highlighted. Because when you experience [00:55:00] these things, And they start coming back in memory. Woohoo. And you start feeling the feelings. You’ve got to know how to be able to just breathe. Mm-hmm. Calm down. Remember we did the five things that you can see, five things that you can hear, three things, five things that you can feel, and you come back into the room and you come.
It’s amazing how you can have a panic attack almost. Yep. In a flashback memory. And you breathe. Look at the picture frame we talked about. Corner rec. Corner, left bottom, right bottom, left box, breathing. Mm-hmm. Deescalate with vision, hearing, feeling. You need to know that. Like, to me, that’s one of the most important
Chris Davios: things.
Oh yeah, yeah. Because it ke it. It brings you back to earth instead of being on the explosive rocket in space that drove you crazy.
Chris Gazdik: So Mr. Robinson, man behind the curtain, how do they get this? What is the [00:56:00] website? What is all the backend thing? You’ve heard us talking, you know, they know what it is. How, how do they get this?
What’s the price point? What do you wanna tell ’em? Make it, make it all make sense. So
Neil Robinson: the, the video experience is at, this will not defeat me.com. That’s, that’s right. Davios, right? That’s the right, yeah, I think that’s right. I always, you know, all the websites. So basically this is gonna be a landing page for a lot of stuff that we’re hoping to do as well as the after sexual abuse video experience.
So the, so definitely wanna keep going back to it, but yeah. So we do have a page for this particular video experience. There is a free sample if you’re not quite sure. Mm-hmm. There is a $27. You can just watch the first part. I kind of. Tag that as, that’s where you start healing. You kind of, it’s about you, it’s about, you know, looking at what happened, how you’re handling it.
But if you’re ready to dive in, it’s, it’s 2 97 for the entire course. It’s a great course. As as gask say, I have to use the last names cuz I’m dealing with Chris and Chris. That’s good. Yeah. You love that. I didn’t you so I use last names. But yeah, so if you’re ready, 2 97 for the [00:57:00] whole course, 27 for the first part to kind of get you started.
The goal is, as they stated, safety in your own home. Do it at your own pace. You can go back through it. We will have handouts and different things as they go. So you can write things down. As, as Davo said, writing is so important. So we want you to get this out. We want you to make sure you understand these deescalations, we want you to build these tools.
Once you find out the issues as you start healing, you’d know how to handle and then you can move forward with your life. And so yeah, that’s, that’s what it is. This will not defeat me.com
Chris Gazdik: and I wanna make a challenge out there to all the, through a therapist eyes tribe. Okay. I feel passionate about helping people with mental health and substance abuse.
I know that Chris Davios does as well, and this is a way, you know, sometimes you hear me talk about helping the show, helping the show, doing this and that. I want to challenge through a therapist as tribe around the world to help a sexual abuse victim get a [00:58:00] free version mm-hmm. Of all of this program. So if you’re not a victim of sexual abuse yourself, I want to ask you that you please purchase a course for somebody, a video experience for somebody knowing that you’re doing good in the world through, through a therapist size.
We’re working together, right? Like this is something that we do. Figuring it out together. Let’s take actions together. So contact us, contact at through a therapist eyes.com is a great way to simply contact and say, I would like to donate a video experience to somebody cuz I can give them out. Yeah. And I will be giving them out to some extent.
Mm-hmm. But I, I, but we need to pay for all the things that we did. And I want as many people in the world to get this video experience, to help them heal and come like Chris did, to emotional freedom from sexual abuse. So please, I challenge you let’s do this together. Yeah. Chris, how would you summarize this man?
What do you what do you wanna say in [00:59:00] summarizing us, taking us out a little bit?
Chris Davios: Well, I’m gonna say this, it’s an investment in your future, $300, 2 97, however you want to say it, or someone else’s. You know, it sounds like a lot, but I spent a lot more than that. I promise you that to get free. But I, I’ll say this, it is an investment into your emotional freedom and into your future.
Because if you wanna stop living your past or letting your past control you, or you know someone else who’s going through it, it’s an investment into their life and their freedom.
Chris Gazdik: Yeah. Powerful. Yeah. Listen, I have a little bit of a tradition on through a therapist besides the podcast, Chris, whenever a person is personally sharing on the show and, you know, talking about what their experiences are.
I haven’t done this Neil in a long time, honestly. We need to get more guests and let us know what what you’d like to hear about, cuz I’m sure there’s people, you know, that are willing to talk about their stories. When I was a kid I had a lot of insecurities and whatever, and I [01:00:00] remember there was a magical moment that I was surprised and I, and it, and it made me feel very different.
Like there was this cool kid that I was working with. He was, he was a cool kid. I had a lot of respect for him. Mm-hmm. And, and he just walked. Walking towards me and he, and he put his hand up in the air and, and I was like, oh, wow. Is he recognizing that to me? And it was like, this split weird second, it’s like, I think he was, and I, and I, and I, and I followed his lead and I put my hand up in the air as well.
And he, and he slapped me a high five. Right. Nice. And I was like, oh, wow. What? Wait, wait, what just happened? So to me, I, I haven’t explained that on the show for a little while. When, when people are on the show sharing, you know, their story and stuff, I like to, what was that in the background? That was not the high five, but I like to do a high five with people.
Chris, it’s powerful that you shared, somebody shared with your story that we’re gonna do. We’re gonna do a lot of good in the world together, man. So let’s do a high five. You. I like it. So through therapist eyes, stay well. What a [01:01:00] powerful story This is with Sexual Abuse and Survivor. We are we are excited to see what this journey.
Creates with this will not defeat me after sexual abuse. Stay well and we’ll we’ll see you next week. Take care.